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Re: Jim: the circle around the arts; Charles: the circle around Darcy

February 19, 2015 05:52PM
James (I use the formal version to avoid confusion),

Re your comment below:

> In Bingley, to fit Jane's almost angelic demeanour,
> she had to have someone who, if he raised his
> voice may cause Jane to have an attack of vapours.
> Jane needed someone who was that "man without
> fault" and, in creating him Jane Austen actually
> needed a cheerful Charlie, goody-goody guy so much
> so that she sent him on an eight month holiday to
> stop him doing anything wrong.

I think you're misreading Jane Bennetif you think she needed someone who could never show passion, or even anger. Or that such a person would "give her a case of the vapors." Jane is not the only gentle heroine (supporting heroine in this case) Miss Austen ever created. And gentle is not a synonym for "weak."

The "Jane-like" Anne Elliot (who, I grant you is more developed than Jane, but she's both the main and the viewpoint character) attracts, and is attracted to the ultra-masculine professional military man Frederick Wentworth.

It's not Anne, but Lady Russell, who's turned off by his bluff, hearty manner, his confidence, and his general demeanor.

Look how many fan-fics convincingly match Jane to the Wentworth-like Col. Fitzwilliam. Are every one of those fan-fic writers completely misreading Jane Bennet's character. I don't think so.

None of this has anything to do with whether or not Charles is a wimp, but, he's got a good heart, and is a loyal friend, and I'd rather have a sister of mine matched with a guy like that, than, as others have pointed out, a Wickham, a Willoughby, or a Hank Crawford.

JIM D.
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The missing eight months

Jim G.MFebruary 13, 2015 01:37PM

Cracked up over this one

Femme MalheureuseFebruary 17, 2015 09:42PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 18, 2015 01:48PM

Jim: the circle around the arts; Charles: the circle around Darcy

Femme MalheureuseFebruary 18, 2015 06:38PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 18, 2015 09:02PM

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Jim D.February 19, 2015 05:52PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 19, 2015 07:57PM

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Jim D.February 19, 2015 09:41PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 19, 2015 10:32PM

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Jim D.February 20, 2015 01:25AM

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Jim G.MFebruary 20, 2015 12:20PM

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Jim D.February 20, 2015 05:50PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 20, 2015 08:24PM

Someone like Willoughby, for example?

GracielaFebruary 19, 2015 12:49AM

For every Willoughby...

Jim G.MFebruary 19, 2015 02:39PM

Re: For every Willoughby...

Little NellFebruary 19, 2015 03:40PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 19, 2015 04:49PM

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Little NellFebruary 19, 2015 05:12PM

Re: Someone like Willoughby, for example?

Jim G.MFebruary 19, 2015 12:12PM

Brilliant, Graciela!

RedsonFebruary 19, 2015 01:20AM

Perfect! Well done! (nfm)

Sandy CFebruary 18, 2015 03:57PM

Re: Cracked up over this one

RedsonFebruary 18, 2015 12:39AM

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MichelleAnne--February 14, 2015 06:41PM

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AlanFebruary 15, 2015 12:31AM

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Harvey S.February 14, 2015 04:52PM

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Suzanne OFebruary 15, 2015 03:41PM

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Harvey S.February 24, 2015 05:57PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 24, 2015 10:19PM

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AdelaideFebruary 27, 2015 12:11PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 27, 2015 02:32PM

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Agnes BeatrixFebruary 15, 2015 10:10PM

Georgiana's establishment

TashaFebruary 15, 2015 05:52PM

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Agnes BeatrixFebruary 16, 2015 12:03PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 15, 2015 07:13PM

Why Georgiana would (or might) live separately from her brother

RedsonFebruary 15, 2015 10:22PM

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AlanFebruary 16, 2015 08:34AM

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RedsonFebruary 16, 2015 04:49PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 16, 2015 07:22PM

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RedsonFebruary 17, 2015 04:29AM

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Debra McFebruary 15, 2015 10:19PM

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BeatriceFebruary 21, 2015 01:47AM

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Jim G.MFebruary 21, 2015 12:37PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 16, 2015 12:20AM

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Suzanne OFebruary 17, 2015 03:31AM

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RedsonFebruary 16, 2015 12:52AM

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Jim G.MFebruary 16, 2015 02:03PM

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Rosie J.February 17, 2015 05:51AM

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Jim G.MFebruary 17, 2015 01:11PM

I agree, Debra Mc (nfm)

RedsonFebruary 15, 2015 10:26PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 15, 2015 01:50PM

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Jim G.MFebruary 14, 2015 07:04PM



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